Repatriation / GILTI Tax Open Discussion

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I would like to gain the community's perspective on what they are finding with the Repatriation Tax/GILTI. I will start with some of my own findings.

1. There was a rush to put US taxpayers individuals with CFCs in S-Corps by 12/31/17 in order to defer the repatriation tax. While this might be a good idea for repatriation tax purposes because the repatriation tax would only be triggered by certain events, this is a bad idea for GILTI because the S-Corp is not eligible to receive the 50% reduction in GILTI income or FTCs, which seems to have made the whole exercise pointless.

2. The Sec. 962 election which enables US Taxpayer to be treated as a corp for SubF purposes, does not provide any benefits for GILTI tax. So, there should be a rush to set up a US C corp and transfer foreign shares into it, rather than relying on the 962 election, which is due on next year's return.

3. CFCs in non-treaty countries could realize a very high ETR because they dont get qualified dividends.

4. There are different views on whether you use corporate rates of 15% and 8% or a higher derived individual rate for a US taxpayer. The code only refers to corporate rates, but that makes no sense because you are applying corporate rates to individuals.
 

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Hi,

Anyone follows this topic???
 

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I would like any analysis on the 962 election and the implications for later tax years on the shareholder. My client is an expat, dual citizen who lives & works abroad. He owns 2 foreign corporations. The 962 election would allow him to use the U.K. corporate taxes he’s paid since he formed the corps 15-20 years ago to offset the repatriation tax. The U.K. corporate tax rate does allow him to squeak by being subject to GILTI.
 

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I am holding off on advising clients to transfer shares of a CFC to a C corporation in order to mitigate GILTI. I have heard a C corporation described as a "roach motel", meaning they are easy to get into but hard to get out of, from a tax perspective. Also, C corporations create possible additional problems because of the personal holding company rules and the AET rules.

I am hopeful the IRS will issue regulations permitting the 50% deduction for GILTI with the 962 election. Right now, I am hesitant to recommend transferring the shares of a CFC to a C corp just to get the 50% GILTI deduction because if we get the 50% deduction with the 962 election, it will likely not be worth it. But if we don't get the 50% deduction with the 962 election, the C corporation structure will have to be a serious consideration.

The OP is correct in that taxable dividends from a CFC located in a nontreaty country in excess of PTI will be subject to the very high individual tax rate on nonqualified dividends. This might be another reason to consider holding a CFC through a domestic C corp. However, again, remember that you must account for the personal holding company rules and the AET rules in the analysis.
 

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Joanmcq wrote:The U.K. corporate tax rate does allow him to squeak by being subject to GILTI.


How does the UK corporate rate allow him to not be subject to GILTI?
 

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How does the UK corporate rate allow him to not be subject to GILTI?

Editing my initial reply. With the 962 election, I believe the deemed paid credit for UK tax paid would reduce the U.S. tax from GILTI, but not completely eliminate it.
 

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I read that the definition of a ‘low tax country’ is one with a lower corporate tax rate than 18.9%. The U.K. corporate tax rate is 19%
 

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There is no such thing as a low tax country under GILTI. It would fully apply to the UK as it does to every other country. As supdat mentions, making a 962 election might make sense, but that is just so that the GILTI is taxed at corporate rates.
 


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