Doug M wrote:If you would have only read the instructions for box 8, we would have been done 4 posts ago...........
If the exercise price per share was not fixed or determinable on the date of grant entered in box 1, enter the exercise price per share determined as if the option was exercised on the date of grant entered in box 1. If the exercise price per share is fixed or determinable on the date of grant entered in box 1, then leave box 8 blank.
I did read that a long time ago, as well as the code section you have cited several times. The price per share was "not fixed or determinable on the date of grant" because 85% of the FMV on exercise date might be a lesser number, and of course that number is unknown at grant date.
"The specific instructions state that don't put anything in box 8 if it is the same as box 1"I think you meant Box 3 instead of Box 1. Even with that correction, I don't believe that is at all what the instructions state. They don't say anything about whether the two numbers are the same, the condition is whether the final exercise price is "fixed or determined" as of grant date.
Let's just assume that the employer is correctly filling out the Form 3922. The Form merely paraphrases Sec. 423(c), which says,
"If the option price is not fixed or determinable at the time the option is granted, then for purposes of this subsection, the option price shall be determined as if the option were exercised at [grant date]". But that price is 100% of the grant date FMV per the employer plan document, therefore no discount.
"hence my questions about FMV and grant price." -- which was provided in the initial post.