Here is my email to her and her reply:
Me:
Thank you for the reply. I am writing to follow up on the issue about capitalizing 471 costs to non-incidental materials and supplies. I discussed your response with other CPAs on an online forum (without identifying anyone). Here is our confusion:
1. What is the point of electing out of maintaining inventory if the taxpayer still must treat purchases as non-incidental materials and supplies and must capitalize costs under 471? What is the practical difference between maintaining inventory and electing out?
2. I hesitate to mention RP 2002-28 and RP 2001-10 since they are now obsolete, but both might illustrate concepts applicable to non-incidental material and supplies. Neither says anything about capitalizing costs to the raw materials treated as non-incidental material and supplies.
3. Please see pages 5 – 7 of Les Schneider’s comment letter:
https://www.ipbtax.com/media/news/428_0 ... mments.pdf He is an expert in tax accounting and inventories.
The first sentence of page 6 says, “Turning first to the determination of the cost of inventories that are produced by a small business taxpayer, if these inventories are treated as non-incidental materials and supplies pursuant to the provisions of the TCJA, we submit that all of the direct labor and overhead costs incurred in producing the goods are deductible as incurred.”
Another professional, Brian Coddington, called this letter to my attention. My response was that the issue must not be settled if the letter writer is suggesting that this is the appropriate treatment. Brian believes that the issue is settled and that Les is just suggesting that the regs confirm this treatment.
Thank you for any understanding that you can provide. I will share the information with the others.
Her:
Non-incidental materials and supplies deals with the timing of the deduction of inventory costs, not with what costs go into inventory. 'definition is in 1.162-3 which is partially reproduced here:
(a)In general
(1)Non-incidental materials and supplies.—
Except as provided in paragraphs (d), (e), and (f) of this section, amounts paid to acquire or produce materials and supplies (as defined in paragraph (c) of this section) are deductible in the taxable year in which the materials and supplies are first used in the taxpayer's operations or are consumed in the taxpayer's operations.
(2)Incidental materials and supplies.—
Amounts paid to acquire or produce incidental materials and supplies (as defined in paragraph (c) of this section) that are carried on hand and for which no record of consumption is kept or of which physical inventories at the beginning and end of the taxable year are not taken, are deductible in the taxable year in which these amounts are paid, provided taxable income is clearly reflected.
If you use a cash method that requires non-incidental materials and supplies treatment for inventory - what you get out of it is relief from having to record accounts receivable and accounts payable.
If you have citations that you want me to review that support your position, please advise and I will look at them. I don't generally review secondary sources.
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I hope the regs clearly address this issue.